Comments on: NBAtoday 01-24-10 Podcast http://www.nbatoday.net/2010/01/nbatoday-01-24-10-podcast/ Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:53:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: The Basher http://www.nbatoday.net/2010/01/nbatoday-01-24-10-podcast/comment-page-1/#comment-957 The Basher Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:04:42 +0000 http://www.nbatoday.net/?p=4846#comment-957 Haha, agreed. This was heated, I'm all out of breath. I'm done. Haha, agreed. This was heated, I’m all out of breath. I’m done.

]]> By: The Ref http://www.nbatoday.net/2010/01/nbatoday-01-24-10-podcast/comment-page-1/#comment-952 The Ref Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:49:22 +0000 http://www.nbatoday.net/?p=4846#comment-952 LMAO, I think after the 15th comment, Basher and I decided to make this the message board without discussing it amongst ourselves. LMAO, I think after the 15th comment, Basher and I decided to make this the message board without discussing it amongst ourselves.

]]> By: Shooter http://www.nbatoday.net/2010/01/nbatoday-01-24-10-podcast/comment-page-1/#comment-950 Shooter Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:03:14 +0000 http://www.nbatoday.net/?p=4846#comment-950 Seriously, how did this discussion get into an all-time best PG convo hahaha Seriously, how did this discussion get into an all-time best PG convo hahaha

]]> By: The Ref http://www.nbatoday.net/2010/01/nbatoday-01-24-10-podcast/comment-page-1/#comment-948 The Ref Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:39:47 +0000 http://www.nbatoday.net/?p=4846#comment-948 I 1 Look at what I wrote above, the instructions are self explanatory. Why would a make a list for guys who were 22-23 12 years ago. 2. We will see about Tyreke. Fair assessment. 3. I have only downplayed Brandon Jennings and Mo Williams. Relax with your comments. I 1 Look at what I wrote above, the instructions are self explanatory. Why would a make a list for guys who were 22-23 12 years ago.

2. We will see about Tyreke. Fair assessment.

3. I have only downplayed Brandon Jennings and Mo Williams. Relax with your comments.

]]> By: The Basher http://www.nbatoday.net/2010/01/nbatoday-01-24-10-podcast/comment-page-1/#comment-945 The Basher Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:16:25 +0000 http://www.nbatoday.net/?p=4846#comment-945 That's why I ask what the qualifications are. I'd choose Nash and Kidd if we could go back to when they were 22-23 years old. Nash hasn't declined yet, he will play more than 2 years. Tyreke Evans is absolutely a true point guard, are you joking? Have you ever watched him play? He gets to the lane like nobody else. He will be a great PG in this league considering he is 6'5" and he will NOT be a SG. His jumper isn't good enough to be a SG. Jennings shooting percentage is terrible... in his rookie year. You act like he won't get better. He defense isn't bad either, his quickness (he's quicker than Rose) will make up for it if he gets beat on the dribble. I get that you like Rose but you keep downplaying their other guards like they aren't even close to Rose's level when some are even better than him! That’s why I ask what the qualifications are. I’d choose Nash and Kidd if we could go back to when they were 22-23 years old. Nash hasn’t declined yet, he will play more than 2 years.

Tyreke Evans is absolutely a true point guard, are you joking? Have you ever watched him play? He gets to the lane like nobody else. He will be a great PG in this league considering he is 6’5″ and he will NOT be a SG. His jumper isn’t good enough to be a SG.

Jennings shooting percentage is terrible… in his rookie year. You act like he won’t get better. He defense isn’t bad either, his quickness (he’s quicker than Rose) will make up for it if he gets beat on the dribble.

I get that you like Rose but you keep downplaying their other guards like they aren’t even close to Rose’s level when some are even better than him!

]]> By: The Ref http://www.nbatoday.net/2010/01/nbatoday-01-24-10-podcast/comment-page-1/#comment-944 The Ref Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:32:09 +0000 http://www.nbatoday.net/?p=4846#comment-944 Kidd is 36 or 37, he will be down in 2 years, MAX. Nash is 35, he will be down in 2 years, MAX. Evans is not a true point guard. He will be moved to shooting gurad once the Kings make some moves. That's the reason I didn't put him on the list. I laugh at you picking Jennings over Rose, hahaha. Really, you crack me up Basher. Jennings shooting percentage is terrible and here is the most UNDERRATED thing about Derrick Rose, he is a terrific defender, where Brandon Jennings is not. Kidd is 36 or 37, he will be down in 2 years, MAX.

Nash is 35, he will be down in 2 years, MAX.

Evans is not a true point guard. He will be moved to shooting gurad once the Kings make some moves. That’s the reason I didn’t put him on the list.

I laugh at you picking Jennings over Rose, hahaha. Really, you crack me up Basher. Jennings shooting percentage is terrible and here is the most UNDERRATED thing about Derrick Rose, he is a terrific defender, where Brandon Jennings is not.

]]> By: The Basher http://www.nbatoday.net/2010/01/nbatoday-01-24-10-podcast/comment-page-1/#comment-941 The Basher Thu, 28 Jan 2010 06:18:09 +0000 http://www.nbatoday.net/?p=4846#comment-941 Rose over Jennings and/or Evans? No way. Also is there any qualifications to starting a franchise with a PG? Just active players? I mean Paul's been in the league for awhile now so if it's a current active player I'd take, in this order: Kidd Paul Nash Evans Rondo Rose over Jennings and/or Evans? No way. Also is there any qualifications to starting a franchise with a PG? Just active players? I mean Paul’s been in the league for awhile now so if it’s a current active player I’d take, in this order:

Kidd
Paul
Nash
Evans
Rondo

]]> By: The Ref http://www.nbatoday.net/2010/01/nbatoday-01-24-10-podcast/comment-page-1/#comment-933 The Ref Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:33:32 +0000 http://www.nbatoday.net/?p=4846#comment-933 Ok, that's all I wanted. This is a fun discussion. We obvisously disagree, but I really want everyone to know that my view point on Rose is absolutely not biased, at all. It is simply what I see and foretell in the near future. And to illustrate how strongly I think Rose will be, here is my top five point guards that I would want to start a franchise with right now. Chris Paul Deron Williams Derrick Rose Rajon Rondo Russell Westbrook Ok, that’s all I wanted.

This is a fun discussion.

We obvisously disagree, but I really want everyone to know that my view point on Rose is absolutely not biased, at all. It is simply what I see and foretell in the near future. And to illustrate how strongly I think Rose will be, here is my top five point guards that I would want to start a franchise with right now.

Chris Paul
Deron Williams
Derrick Rose
Rajon Rondo
Russell Westbrook

]]> By: G http://www.nbatoday.net/2010/01/nbatoday-01-24-10-podcast/comment-page-1/#comment-932 G Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:21:25 +0000 http://www.nbatoday.net/?p=4846#comment-932 Listening back to the podcast, The Ref made a great point in stating who is even out there for the East to choose. Off the top of my head, I came up with these names from Eastern Conference teams for PG's Jamal Crawford Raymond Felton Derrick Rose Brandon Jennings Jameer Nelson Rajon Rondo Mo Williams Rodney Stuckey That being said, after Iverson, I'd go with Rondo and Crawford. Crawford isn't a true point guard, but he fills that role at times, so why not?lol Listening back to the podcast, The Ref made a great point in stating who is even out there for the East to choose. Off the top of my head, I came up with these names from Eastern Conference teams for PG’s

Jamal Crawford
Raymond Felton
Derrick Rose
Brandon Jennings
Jameer Nelson
Rajon Rondo
Mo Williams
Rodney Stuckey

That being said, after Iverson, I’d go with Rondo and Crawford. Crawford isn’t a true point guard, but he fills that role at times, so why not?lol

]]> By: The Basher http://www.nbatoday.net/2010/01/nbatoday-01-24-10-podcast/comment-page-1/#comment-931 The Basher Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:02:42 +0000 http://www.nbatoday.net/?p=4846#comment-931 Ok I said there stats are SIMILAR not the exact same. Rose scores 3 more ppg due to the fact he is the only one on the team who can create for himself. Cavs have this guy LeBron James who does all that. Other than that they are percentage points away in rebounds assists and shots. Its not all based on stats. As G pointed out the Cavs are the best team, you don't become the best team due to 1 player, it's a TEAM that makes you good. Mo Williams is part of that and for that I'd take him over Rose. Personally I don't think either of them are all stars AT ALL. I don't like either of their games, I think they are both semi-selfish players who play a little too much 1 on 1. Yeah Rose averages 6 assists a game but what is he doing to make Salmons, Deng and company better? Mo Williams doesn't really make anyone better because LeBron does all that. I'd take Rondo over both of them right now. If I were given those 3 to start a franchise with, I'd take Rondo, no questions asked. Ok I said there stats are SIMILAR not the exact same. Rose scores 3 more ppg due to the fact he is the only one on the team who can create for himself. Cavs have this guy LeBron James who does all that. Other than that they are percentage points away in rebounds assists and shots. Its not all based on stats.

As G pointed out the Cavs are the best team, you don’t become the best team due to 1 player, it’s a TEAM that makes you good. Mo Williams is part of that and for that I’d take him over Rose.

Personally I don’t think either of them are all stars AT ALL. I don’t like either of their games, I think they are both semi-selfish players who play a little too much 1 on 1. Yeah Rose averages 6 assists a game but what is he doing to make Salmons, Deng and company better? Mo Williams doesn’t really make anyone better because LeBron does all that.

I’d take Rondo over both of them right now. If I were given those 3 to start a franchise with, I’d take Rondo, no questions asked.

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